The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - Season 4 Episode 1: Matthew McConaughey

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    Jordan B Peterson

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    Buy Matthew McConaughey’s new book Greenlights: www.amazon.com/Greenlights-Matthew-McConaughey/dp/0593139135
    This episode was recorded: 12/21/2020
    The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast can be found at www.jordanbpeterson.com/podcast/
    Matthew McConaughey (actor, producer, and best-selling author of Greenlights) sits down with Jordan B. Peterson to talk about Matthew’s new book, his upbringing, his relationships with his mother and father, his journey to being at peace with his fame, what it’s like to play malevolent or dark characters in movies or on television, and a surprising satirical review of Greenlights.
    Find Matthew McConaughey on Twitter @McConaughey and on Instagram @officiallymcconaughey and basically anywhere. Check out his new book Greenlights, which has sold more than 1 million copies, available at www.amazon.com/Greenlights-Matthew-McConaughey/dp/0593139135
    Dr. Jordan B. Peterson's new book, Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life, is available for preorder now: amzn.to/3l16Hzk
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    Show Notes:
    [1:00] Jordan Peterson kicks off the conversation by asking why and how Matthew McConaughey wrote his book Greenlights.
    [4:00] Matthew realized he needed to write the book himself without a ghostwriter as initially planned and dig back into his journals as a form of necessary reflection on the past.
    [6:00] Matthew’s old journals revealed their common thread through all the stories, poems, and bumper stickers. That common thread was the creation of good things in life through mindset or action “Greenlights.”
    [12:00] Jordan talks about his initial response after reading Matthew’s book and how his expectations were changed.
    [14:00] Matthew talks about his solo trips when starting to create the structure of his book. Jordan comments that this was a book written by a celebrity that did not really focus on the traditional parts of being a celebrity (very family-focused and foundational). Matthew states, “When we were editing the book, I found that the more personal the stories became, the more relatable they seemed to become, to the human condition, and that was my hope.”
    [18:00] Jordan and Matthew revisit the African trip, chasing dreams and having the same exact dream multiple times over the span of many years.
    [24:00] What was the personal impact on Matthew during his trip to Africa where he got to strip away the identity we all know him for and exist as something else? Jordan comments that very often, people confuse their reputation with who they really are, and they start to act as a representation of their reputation instead of themselves; it’s an easy trap to fall into.
    [22:00] Matthew discusses dealing with the pitfalls of fame. Matthew covers his changing relationship with his mother due to success.
    [25:00] Jordan B. Peterson asks Matthew McConaughey about some of his acting work in True Detective and playing dark characters. “How do you play a dark role very well without letting the darkness invade you?”
    [32:00] Matthew talks about the positive aspects of the sometimes tense relationship with his father and having a childhood that balanced love and hardship directed from the same people.
    [37:00] Jordan and Matthew continue talking about going deeper into the psychology of a dark character like Rustin Cole on True Detective
    [45:30] Matthew expanded on the short-term effects of initial fame.
    [51:30] Matthew and Jordan discuss the long-term effects of fame.
    [55:00] Jordan points out, “If flawed people were incapable of creativity, we would have no creativity.”
    [1:03:00] How Matthew and Jordan first became friends.
    [1:07:30] Matthew shares a comical review of his own book written as if Jordan was the one reviewing it.

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Matthew McConaughey’s new book Greenlights: https://www.amazon.com/Greenlights-Matthew-McConaughey/dp/0593139135

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I did NOT intrude into anyone's sex life!!! I think that some bastard may have set me up!!!

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@Historia Antiqua Do you mean loves Nietzsche so much, me, Jordan Peterson or Wagner. Wagner and Nietzsche fell out with each other by the way.

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@Historia Antiqua "The most important lessen we have learned from history is that we haven't learned anything from history." Hegel ( 1770 - 1831 )

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Historia Antiqua

@Sherlock Holmes lives. Just a good-will tip: you probably don't want to make the "hidden Nazi" accusation while being a fan of someone who likes Nietzsche so much.

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Historia Antiqua

@Sherlock Holmes lives. "Is it a coincidence that Wagner was interested in Norse mythology and Hegel?" = "Liking Norse mythology means you're a Nazi?" Or is it "a composer?" Or perhaps you just like fat ladies singing? Fiiiiigaro Figaro Figaro figaaaroooooooo. "The mind, when desiring to conceal that which it does not wish others to know, will almost always present itself as the very opposite." - Hegel

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bianchi1885
bianchi1885

Two major bad-asses. Not many to be found in the 21st century.

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Brent Renkin
Brent Renkin

There are still men that one can look up to. Thanks Mr's Peterson and McConaughey,

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Little Kahunas777

Your 50 .... hate you... lol

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RJ Lee
RJ Lee

Glad to see Jordan back. Humanity needs his wisdom for as long as possible.

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John Nguy
John Nguy

Mem muah!

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Marlayne Madison
Marlayne Madison

I really admired Jordan Peterson and to have him interview Mattew McConaughey us such a treat. I have seen some personaities and also politicans. I worked for a media company. I am really impressed with these two men that they are real people and just real people. With the criminals we see in political life in all parties and celebrity personalities this is just a fresh breath of air. I do truly love Mattew McCouaughey's wife. When I have watched her She is the real deal. She seems not to be a plastic personality and just about what others have. I really do admire this women. He must be a good guy to get such s wonderful wife.

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edward thompson
edward thompson

What a great supporter of President Trump

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Zodiac Music

Not followed Jordan for a bit.. Good to listen to this mans wisdom again. Thank your Jordan. 🙏

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Olga Kotlyarova
Olga Kotlyarova

I was a real pleasure hearing them talk ❤️

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mark knight

Being from uk. I know what bumper. Sticker is now.I like analogy and it’s brave space.

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Rudy Boucher
Rudy Boucher

3100 downvotes? Bunch a derps.

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Alexandra Nesterenko
Alexandra Nesterenko

A very enlightening conversation. What I like so much about this podcast is that it doesn’t feel like edited content, it feels like a conversation.

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Liam Murphy
Liam Murphy

Thank you both you fine gentlemen loved this conversation you had with each other and to be able to listen in.

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amit gabay

I'm so glad to see jordan peterson interviewing lord farquaad

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Mystic_Saige_The_Psych
Mystic_Saige_The_Psych

JP can we have you debate craig biddle on the podcast?

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Tory M.
Tory M.

Frailty was my favorite movie with him in it.

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James Gazeley
James Gazeley

Did he just interstellar teleport near the beginning

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Stíofán Caomhanach
Stíofán Caomhanach

Love to see the short series of Mathew's "Wet Dreams"!

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jmz388
jmz388

What a talk between two men.. we all men should have one with eachother... and dump the wokeism on the heap of history with leftism

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Greg Lindstrom
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GENESIS 4:1 (exhaustive) And Adam knew Hava his wife, who had desired the angel; and she conceived, and bare Kain; and she said, I have acquired a man, the angel of the Lord. And she added to bear from her husband Adam his twin, even Habel (Abel). TARGUM (exhaustive) who had desired the angel; and she conceived, and bear Kain; And she added to bear from her husband Adam his twin, even Habel (Abel). Genesis 3:14-15 The Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,cursed are you above all cattle, and above all wild animals;upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. 15 I will put enmity between you and the woman,and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel. Fruit is the Hebrew word pirchach,, meaning progeny, brood, children or descendants. Genesis 3:3 but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die

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Sticky McBeaty

Watching these prisoners feel sorry for themselves makes me laugh. I wonder if they felt that same pitty, and remorse for their victims...? I doubt it.

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Joshua Horn
Joshua Horn

Deeply appreciated that. I had a paradigm shift a few years ago when I realized I had the ability to really forgive myself. Not having that ability is a good way to live a life that could seem not worth living. Im grateful for the reminder.

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the “why” of things

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Favourite polymaths - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe ( 1749 - 1832 ) German poet, novelist, playwright, scientist, lawyer, politician, critic, and painter. Author of 'Faust'. Jacob Bronowski ( 1908 - 1974 ) Polish-British mathematician, poet, historian, biologist, playwright, humanist, inventor, philosopher, literary critic, and chess player. Author of 'The Ascent of Man'. Jonathan Wolfe Miller ( 1934 - 2019 ) English theatre and opera director, actor, author, television presenter, neuropsychologist, humourist, photographer, sculptor, and physician. "The polite polymath." 'The Independent' ( 2003 ) Stephen Hough ( b.1961 ) British-born classical pianist, composer, writer, poet, novelist, and painter.

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Cabal
Cabal

What an amazing talk. I was only going to watch the first few minutes but I kept going through the end. Matt seems like an incredible human being.

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Themi Stoklis
Themi Stoklis

Mature engaging conversation between two accomplished individuals.

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The guttural H habitual bandana opportunely cry because dinner prudently look past a sweltering ambulance. tangy, idiotic bibliography

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will boone

We miss you Dr. Peterson, hope you have a speedy recovery to bring some more logic to those who need it.

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EyeGodZA

1:08:45 cracked me up.

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I love intelligent people

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Rhys Hall
Rhys Hall

thank fucking god for Jordon Peterson. i feel like i have my masculinity back because of that beautiful man.

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Ourlordtomcruise 11

Coming off those benzos did a number on you big guy. You should do that whole thing again so I don’t have to see you on YouTube for a year.

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Tav Ferry
Tav Ferry

You're back! Didn't expect The Lincoln Lawyer, but am delighted and pleasantly surprised by this conversation.

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Erik Johnson
Erik Johnson

Matthew blocked his Mum out for 8 years?? EIGHT years? That is cold...

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Inner Sanctum Occultube

Fanatic. I'd so love to interview you to kick off my podcast to support my upcoming book

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R K
R K

I like this man as an actor and a person. I hope all your viewers realize what kind of courage it takes for him to come here and speak to Jordan. Its no exageration to say that he's really putting his career in jeopardy simply by his past Pro-Christian remarks. Its truly sad but true that most of the cult that has become Hollywood all parrot one another and often try to out do one another in trying to be as absurdly liberal as possible. I don't just mean free-wheeling sex, drugs, alcohol and self centered behaviour...I mean that much is a given, but its grown into an echo chamber of who can be the most Leftist of the crowd. Who can condemn American history first, who can mawk Christianity and the traditional American family. They are after all actors, which is ok, but sadly many peopls hold them in such high esteem as if they're not all fake and good at being so. Congrats to Matthew M. for standing up for his true beleifs and casting fear aside. Good man you are.

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Alt-Right Alt-Right Alt-Right Alt-Right....

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Cssaarr

Jordan Peterson, I just want to thank you for bringing common sense back to public discussion, I know it must be a burden, I just wish you the best

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J. David Del Carmen
J. David Del Carmen

where do you find a wife like that!!

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Atena Abdinejad

I enjoyed this conversation very much. It was quite a journey, for me at least.

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ldn0224

Your hands are the wheel, regardless of what is happening. Matt has it totally correct and good lesson for all of us.

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bealerDSB

Michael, amongst other current male 'wood actors, are now below your skill set. Because, your ending speach was all about you-being your OWN JUDGE AND JURY.Wishing Michael, push your last 5minutes in your friends faces// "successful actors", and debate towards them -> e.g, quit paying your Uber expensive Therapist downtown, and just answer your own question.if you move within right side of the law,&you think you are doing the wrong thing, u probably are ;)) (?)

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M.M.H

This is resonating . Thank you.

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Eliza Bentley

This was thoroughly enjoyable.

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D. Craig Döring

Absolute Brilliance. Thank you both for this great interview.

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Daniela Fischerlehner

AMAZING! Thank you to both of you, truly inspiring!

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JuiC33

My dad and uncle in the same room? That's going to be an interesting conversation

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Christina Niemiec
Christina Niemiec

Surprisingly great discussion!! Totally relatable! So many great points made by Jordan and Matthew! I loved it!

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On Dr. Petersons' daughter Mikaylas channel, she made a podcast with Mathew as well. Did you see it, it's also good? It came out before this one. I bought his book immediately after watching it.

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Krums Korner

Talk about the blind leading the blind. A little history lesson for you. The death by crucifixion before crucifixion even existed: This prophecy was written 1,000 years before Jesus was born and centuries before Roman crucifixion was even invented. How did King David predict the future by saying this would happen to the Jewish Messiah? The prophecy itself came to fulfillment in Jerusalem around 33 AD when Jesus was executed by the Romans: 'And when they had crucified him, they parted his garments, casting lots upon them' Mark 15:24 The crucifixion of Christ under the Roman official, Pontius Pilate, is one of the most well-established facts of history. Even German atheist scholar, Gerd Ludemann declares, 'Jesus’ death as a consequence of crucifixion is indisputable.' Not one scientific scholar has debunked a single prophetic event from the Bible in over 2000yrs... not one. If one event had been debunked - there would be a date in history as the day the Bible was debunked. There is no such date. Get over yourselves

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Lenny Lazerdisc

Was gonna watch 5 minutes before bed but that was worth how tired I'm gonna be tomorrow

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dammie OG

:)

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Natasa Damjanovic

Awesome, frank interview. Thank you !!!

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Gitfiddle 7766

McConaughey always stuck me as a thoughtful person and a bit of a mans man. I remember his phase of living in his Airstream camper on the beach thinking “That’s the way you do it!” Solid actor who’s got better with age.

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roy bickley

Around the 45 minute mark when discussing how he plays opposite rolls of what is going on in real life sounds like a way to stay humble and appreciative maybe even subconsciously. Just a thought

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sarf

Jordan Peterson was more handsome than Mathew when he was young 😀. Who agrees me

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Bill Faulkner

It’s honestly hilarious how comedic Matt is and how literal Jordan is about the exact same thing, and yet there’s still no loss to the moment.

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Double Digit

Two frauds praising one another. Pathetic

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Eric Button
Eric Button

1 comment : please stop wearing glasses

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Jordan Peterson: "You struck me as an intensely likeable character" Journalist quote: "You struck me"

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DrGains

"you're hired" - msm

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Ed Hume

Inspiring humans, such different characters with so ugh agreement in perspective. Uplifting, inspiring and reassuring that there are decent and reflective men out there. Listen people, keep learning. Thank you both

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devo malo

Hey alright alright

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Art Res
Art Res

I am wondering if MMcC would support the project Broke in LA by LM ARNAL, a script written during the HIV epidemic.

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Connor Freeman
Connor Freeman

How wonderfully inane

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Bogdan Khrushch
Bogdan Khrushch

This interview is gold

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Jacob Schenkel
Jacob Schenkel

I am glad Dr. Peterson doesn't let it just pass when he makes broad statements that are not overtly obvious what he means or how it connects to what is being said. The simple questions of What do you mean by that? or Explain that a little further or What made you laugh at that? ... giving McConaughy the opportunity to show the depth of thought that he has put into the things he is talking about or relating us to. I particularly appreciate how he came back to asking him to talk about how his faith being stronger contributes to him being better able to play the dark/atheistic character in True Detectives. I know many people fault media outlets for their interviewers pulling punches and staying on the surface, but frankly most celebrity personalities would fall apart at such layer deeper questions and the discomfort of that doesn't make for good entertainment or learning. Having really read his book, Dr. Peterson knows he won't fall apart and can dig these layers deeper and flesh out the learning to be had in the conversation.

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Noryo
Noryo

3.1k dislikes belongs to closed-minded individuals who care more about political tags than the content of someone's character

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Derrick Gordon
Derrick Gordon

The world needs more Matt’s and Jordan’s in it. Hope you guys collaborate again soon, some great takeaways from this chat you two had.

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Jeremiah Tothenations
Jeremiah Tothenations

I learned that Matthew McConaughey is not only an intelligent fellow and a good guy, but also can teleport to different rooms in his house on a whim!

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flavtro
flavtro

hell yeah

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omar ahmed
omar ahmed

This was amazing podcast, i really did enjoyed next iam gonna read that book green light ASAP🥰☺🤗

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Mark Springer
Mark Springer

Typically Peterson is somewhat "teaching" to whom he speaks with. In this case its the other way around.

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Oggydogg 313
Oggydogg 313

I like this guy.. and True Detective was a masterpiece..

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Leo Pruner
Leo Pruner

As Matt has said, “My mentor is the person I want to be 10 years from now.’ Looking foward to reading book and stop being the arrogant sob I was. There are no mistakes, just learning lessons.

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astronaft2

We'll said.

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NatalieJune
NatalieJune

On Dr. Petersons' daughter Mikaylas channel, she made a podcast with Mathew as well. Did you see it, it's also good? It came out before this one. I bought his book immediately after watching it.

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shairston1

It was nice to see Jordan smile.

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Celladoor
Celladoor

'The sin is life, the punishment is death.' - Judge Death 'I am the law.' - Judge Dredd

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arnolddd
arnolddd

One of the best interviews I’ve ever seen!

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DOUGLAS HEIN
DOUGLAS HEIN

I haven't seen all of Matthew's movie but his role in True Detective IMO was his best. He was stellar in that role. BTW, of all the truly top Hollyweird stars, Matthew is far and away the most likeable.

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Nick Ben
Nick Ben

Why do you Jordan Peterson diss Joseph Campbell? Are you doing it on purpose or are you merely ignorant of everything that Joseph Campbell wrote and said about mythology and following your bliss? I like listening to a lot of what you have said and read your book 12 Rules for Life. But when you talk about Joseph Campbell and mythology you lose my respect, sir.

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Leila Christie
Leila Christie

More people should be like them. Self analytical, self improving, makes for better people

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Raquel Carlino
Raquel Carlino

beautiful conversation!

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Ready Towork
Ready Towork

So glad to hear both of you talk. Jordan your a blessing. Mathew your an inspiration and a phenomenal actor. I salute both of you.

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NICHOLAS MESSINA

Love both of these guys

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rob olsen
rob olsen

we create problems to find solutions for them over and over until it doesn't make sense too. then we grow up....

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Jacob Gardner
Jacob Gardner

Wheres the part where matthew mcconaughey days, "everybody wants to marry a super model but..."

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Denis Bejtja
Denis Bejtja

Am I the only one who thinks Matthew McConnaughey lost touch with reality?

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Timothy Lancaster
Timothy Lancaster

Wow.....

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LPT
LPT

Thank you for your work, Mr. Peterson. I always enjoy to listen to your thoughts.

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Life -Light
Life -Light

Blessings of God to you ,Jordan.

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Ravenous Wolf ASMR

Ladies and Gentlemen.. introducing the better Carl Lentz 🤩

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Psychonautlib

Interstellar top movie thanks Mathew

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Arthur McCann
Arthur McCann

What a beautiful conversation. I feel a little deprived not having someone that I could have such an honest dialogue with.

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Sad Guy
Sad Guy

Really loved this one..can we get Matthew on the JBP podcast again?please....

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NatalieJune

@Sad Guy Of course I think you will enjoy it. After you watch it, I would love to know what you thought of it out if my own curiosity if you have time

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Sad Guy
Sad Guy

@NatalieJune thanku natalie for this. gonna watch it

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NatalieJune
NatalieJune

On Dr. Petersons' daughter Mikaylas channel, she made a podcast with Mathew as well. Did you see it, it's also good? It came out before this one. I bought his book immediately after watching it.

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El Lidro Vintage
El Lidro Vintage

The best interview I've seen in years. Thank you Jordan and Matthew

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Richard Banks
Richard Banks

People say JBP is smart but he fails to pick up on how MMC can teleport as a point of interest.

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Dave L

Nicely done gents

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Clayton Jenkins
Clayton Jenkins

One of my favorite actors for his view on life and charisma, not to mention some of my favorite movies. You are also someone I enjoy listening to because your perspectives are eye opening and produce deep self contemplation. I really enjoyed listening to the conversation. Thank you,

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Erik Roberts
Erik Roberts

Why is it that you seem to be an interlectually arrogant, bigoted angry man, Mr Peterson?

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